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Prashanth Krish | Portfolio Yoga - Part 15

Misplaced Anger

With Equity Markets taking a beating, Questions are being raised about the efficiency of pure Equity funds with even AMC heads these days promoting Balanced / Dynamic / Asset Management funds as the better alternative for they haven’t fallen as much as Equity.

Of course, given the fact that most of these fund houses run larger pure equity funds, the current fascination with these funds will last only as long as equity seems volatile. The moment the pure equity funds start generating stronger returns, the focus will once again shift back to those funds.

Most of these funds run based on a simple quantitative model of allocation to equities being dependent on the price earnings ratio of the Index. As markets become expensive, the equity weights in these funds go lower and vice versa. The Portfolio Yoga Asset Allocator too works on a similar frame-work.

If you are comfortable with market returns without the accompanying market risks, these can be good funds to invest given that the Large Cap Equity Premium in India for quite a while has been negligible.

Look at the comparative chart (Source: Valueresearch) comparing Large Cap Index Fund, Mid Cap & Small Cap active funds versus a simple Liquid Fund and ICICI Pru Balanced Advantage which is a Asset Allocation Hybrid Fund.

The best fund from the starting point of this chart – DSP Small Cap Fund {SBI Small Cap fund had similar returns for the said period}.

But this performance did not come with low volatility. In fact, DSP head Kalpen Parekh recently tweeted this

The trade-off to attempt a higher return is by taking a higher risk. Mid Caps are riskier than Large Caps and Small Caps are riskier than Mid Caps. While Mid and Small Cap stocks have more or less been bearish since 2018, the returns are even today substantially better than large caps.

While I don’t know if the trend will continue in the future as well, we can only base our decisions based on past data. But what I am trying to showcase is that there is no free lunch wherein you can have the upside of equity with the downside or volatility of Bonds.

Buy and Hold on Equity has not generated phenomenal returns for investors. But that has been seen in history as well – the returns are lumpy in nature. If there is no Risk Management, you gain in the good days and lose some of that in the bad days and overall hope you can beat a simple fixed income return on the long term.

While some amount of Risk Management by cutting off the fat tails to the left can be achieved by using a trend following filter, there are trade offs to be made and one which may not yield greatly in terms of return but provide you comfort when it comes to Risk. 

The Importance of Asset Allocation in one’s investment framework

Managing money is tough regardless of whether it’s one’s own money or the money of others, there is a responsibility of wisely managing it. Most of us wish to outsource this clumsy business to others – mutual funds, banks, etc. In some ways we always feel they with their superior skills will be able to manage our assets better than we ever can.

The question that confronts many is our ability to gauge whether the investment we have done is on the right track. One way experts advise is to forget about returns and concentrate upon whether we are on track to meet the goals. This is actually pretty good advise given that the final objective of our investments is to meet our goals, be it ensuring that we have enough to tide over the years when we will no longer be employed or goals such as ensuring that we can celebrate the wedding of our children or enable them to make choices when it comes to education without worrying where the money is going to come from.

But the problem with the current way of goal planning anticipates a steady return from markets and continuous employment and ability to contribute on a continuous basis. For most, this is the simple way given that we really cannot forecast the uncertainties that may arise in the midst of our journey but one where the long term averages provide us both hope and a sense of being in the right direction.

The current market fall would have created a massive divergence between where you planned to be versus where you had to be. But if you have a long road ahead, the probability is that this glitch will overtime be overcome and then some.

For most, asset allocation ratio is something you plan once and then forget about it. While the equity part is seen as the driver for growth, the debt part is seen as the stabilizer. How much equity you have is based on your risk profile and how long your target time is. Longer the time and higher the risk taking ability, greater the allocation to equities that is recommended.

This fall brings about many lessons. Key among these is that imported templates of debt equity split we bring from the United States is not really applicable to developing countries such as India where Interest Rates are pretty high relatively speaking. India is one of the very few countries to have real positive interest rates while much of the world has negative.   

Last year was a lesson in better understanding Debt funds and the risk they come with. This time, its Equity even though the risk was supposedly known. 

One common observation among all historic falls has been the panicking of the retail investor. We are nowhere close to that this time around with more funds being added. I don’t think human behavior with respect to Fear and Greed can be changed by uttering the mantra “Mutual Fund Sahi Hai”  1001 times.

To me, this means that the bear market which more or less started for the broader markets 2 and quarter years back and one that started for the mainline indices a month back is nowhere close to where it could bottom.

Time in markets is more important than Timing the markets they say. While this is true based once again using historical data, living through such times is tougher than most anticipated when looking at a long term chart of an Index. To me, this is India’s first real bear market in a long time since it is impacting the common folk as much as the Investor. Key lessons to learn out there for sure.

Should Interest Rates in India go down to Zero

I am not much a fan of Macro Economic Analysis and yet Macro fascinates me more than a lot of equity factors do. Understanding Macro to me is a way to design models that can benefit from the broader philosophy to understand and implement at the micro level.

I have had some fascinating discussions revolving interest rates  in the past and my view was that India with no social safety net could not afford negative interest rates. When I say negative, I mean less than Inflation and not the negative we see in Europe or Japan currently.

There was some bias given that most of my father’s money sits safely in a fixed deposit allowing him to lead a comfortable life without the need to take risks. Why should he take such risks at his age. That reasoning remains but I think that he is a small minority vs the large majority who cannot afford such luxuries.

On one hand, I doubt India can have the kind of safety net that the West has been used to – Quality Public Healthcare, Quality Public Education, unemployment benefits among others. That requires the kind of money that we don’t have and may not have for the forthcoming future.

India is capital starved. Ask any Entrepreneur and he shall say his biggest worry is access to capital that doesn’t require a hand and a foot to be exchanged. While RBI reserve rates are in single digits for a long time, in the real world, the cheapest finance you can get is 13 to 15% for personal loans and 18% at to an atrociously high 60% in the private markets depending on your urgency and credit assessment by the lender (and let me not even go to the Daily Interest Loans where you just don’t want to annualize the same).

The high level of interest is a boon to the middle class and above while a curse to those who don’t have enough capital. The high interest rates has meant that if you are comfortable, you are better off working for someone than starting a business and providing jobs for others.

While in India, there is a certain stigma attached to failure, the cost of failing in a business can many a time end up with losing everything one owns including one’s home. Not an acceptable cost.

If you were to look at Budget 2020, the biggest share of the pie in terms of expenses for the Government of India is Interest. This takes away 18% of the total income and is a bit less than the total sum the government spends on Subsidies and Central Sector Schemes. 

A low interest rate is beneficial for Industry and enables Job creation. In the new world we face post Corona, Jobs will be harder to get given that a lot of business will be stressed and saving it will require firing employees rather than adding more.

Cutting down on Interest Rates would allow the government to save a bundle. This can come at a cost of FII’s not wishing to invest in Government Treasuries. But even today, Foreigners hold just 3.7 per cent of the almost Rs 60 trillion ($835 billion) of sovereign bonds issued by India, and the government has set a 6 percent limit on foreign ownership. Once this crisis started, FIIs have gone out in droves even though the interest rate differential is now even larger.

Borrowing by Private Companies tends to get shadowed over by Borrowings by the Government. This means that other than the bluest of the blue chips, the cost of capital for even mid and small sized firms are nowhere close to where they should be. They are not Junk and yet treated as Junk.

With no Junk or Distressed Bond markets, small businesses are forced to accept the high interest rates of the Bank – why are they high – well, because the bank’s inefficiencies can be easily passed along to borrowers who aren’t easily welcomed elsewhere.

The coronavirus impact is not going away the moment a vaccine is in the cards. When it comes to trade, I strongly believe that there is going to be large scale reorganization and a fresh look by the West at outsourcing as a whole. Unless the government wishes the next generation to be a Ninja, we need radical steps that deviate from the past.

 As I was writing this, a new podcast came out. Is worth hearing to understand how logic in Monetary Policies have been turned on its head by the US, Europe and Japan. 

James Montier on Fear and Investment

Financial Repression seems like a negative word, but the time I think has come to accept the same for a better future for the majority who don’t have idle savings that can help them cruise through life.

I could be very very wrong. Would love to know and learn. Please do share your views either in the comments section here or the #fixed-income channel on Slack.

Market Timing Luck – When should you Rebalance

Luck plays a large role in many a person’s life regardless of whether they choose to accept it or not starting right from the family they were born to. Luck is like the catalyst in a chemical reaction – small in proportion to the other chemicals out there but large in the role to play.

When one is building a trading system, one way to check out whether the trading system has real value is by subjecting the results of the back-test to Bootstrapping and Monte Carlo. This provides for one to analyze a system without being held hostage to its path dependency of the past.

Systematic Momentum investing has not gained much followership even though the majority of investors are in the camp of Momentum Investing. In Momentum Investing there is an element of luck that is introduced in various ways – one way that is of great interest to me ever since I started to focus on it has been around the question of when to rebalance one’s portfolio.

The best interval for rebalancing is for Daily with the worst being Yearly. This is because as close as you are to the daily changes, the better the ability to enter a stock as soon as it starts showing momentum and vice versa for exit. 

On the other hand, the longer your holding time frame before rebalance, the higher the probability of mean reversion kicking in and eating a chunk of your returns before the reset happens. While there is no optimal time frame, higher transactions lead to higher levels of transactions and taxes. 

I rotate my portfolio once a month. While academic evidence has pointed to monthly being a pretty optimal (not the most), the choice was dictated by other reasons including the fact that when I started with Momentum Investing, I was working with Capitalmind and there we already had a Qualitative Momentum strategy that rotated once a month. 

There is a great deal of Literature around Timing Luck. To learn more about this, do read this post by Corey Hoffstein 

The Dumb (Timing) Luck of Smart Beta

Also check out

Strategic Rebalancing

My own rebalance happens on the first day of the month. Idea has been to keep it simple and one that when I was working synchronized with my Salary being credited enabling me to add to the portfolio if I so wished. 

It shall be in a few days 3 years since I started and the results while not fantastic has been way better than what I could have achieved by investing in any other Long only product. That was until March 2020.

When the Corona Virus first started making news, I tried to study the possible impact on markets given my own large exposure to them. From what I could study about previous epidemics,I figured that the worst case scenario was one that I could digest without having to deviate from my current plan and strategy. Man, was I wrong.

As a trader before and investor today, losing money I have understood is part and parcel of the process. What I wish to understand more was whether the path I had chosen had hidden risks that got exposed in such times. In case of Momentum Investing, the question was whether my performance would have been better if I had stuck to a mid month rebalance vs a start of the month rebalance.

While I have thought about going down to Weekly, I have found little evidence of it having a better risk management for the additional trouble and costs I need to pay. Same goes for a fortnightly rebalance as well. In hindsight, the only way I could have saved a lot of grief this time around without panicking and exiting my portfolio was by way of buying Puts. But given how much of the markets which is where my portfolio comes from had deviated from Nifty, this would have cost me in the last two years even as the portfolio had suffered.

March 2020 was different though. I calculated that if I had rebalanced (not exited) the portfolio at the middle of the month, I could have saved a whopping 10% vs what I lost by rebalancing at the end of the month. 

But was this a one off or does rebalancing mid month does add value {Remember, the time period difference between two rebalances continues to be a month} was what I wanted to test and hence I set out to test the strategy of rebalancing mid-month.

When I got the results, it blew me off. It’s not that the mid-month was better, it’s just how bad that was and how Lucky I was to have chosen a start of the month rebalance instead. Here is the over-all comparison on a Net Asset Value basis

I broke this down in monthly terms

What I find fascinating is that the mid-month strategy works better in bear markets than in bull, but because in the last 15 years, the testing period, bull markets have been the dominating factor, small differences have added to a substantial outperformance.

The question that needs to be asked is Why? Why does a mid-month rebalance suffer so much versus a beginning of the month rebalance. The honest answer is I don’t know but I do think, rather, I can speculate that this may have something to do with how large investors deploy. 

To me, this fall has been more educative with the cost much more bearable than all the other market crashes I had participated in the past (going right back to the Dot Com bubble crash). The answers I come across confound my own beliefs, but that is why one needs to keep testing alternatives so as to be sure that one is not mistaking good luck for great strategy. It’s a real thin line out there in the world of finance.

End Note: We are starting to build some Momentum in the Slack Channel. It’s a network effect and hence should take more time to build the environment that enables people to share and discuss views and strategies, but believe we will be there.

Should you invest in PMS Schemes

One of the great surprises of the 2008 financial crisis was that investing in Hedge Funds did not really hedge you when markets turned down. You lost as much if not more of what a simple Index fund investor would have. 

While India has had a few Hedge Funds, one strong growth area has been Mutual Funds and Portfolio Management Schemes. This is not surprising given that most countries at one point or the other have seen a financialization of savings. 

While both Mutual Funds and PMS are sold directly, a greater proportion has been sold by co-opting advisors by paying them a fee that is related to the amount of investment and the tenure of such investment. 

This is not a new model and one that has been there for ages. In fact, in one post of mine here earlier I had highlighted how I started in business by canvassing for fixed deposits. The reason for such canvassing was the percentage cut I used to get. It’s amazing when I look in hindsight how for a small cut, we the advisor are willing to put our name at risk with friends and family.

Portfolio Management Schemes are seen as strategies for the sophisticated investor and the way we define sophisticated is that they are able to invest a minimum of 50 Lakhs to get an entry. 

Why the high minimums? The idea is that if you have 50 Lakhs, you should be able to take a much higher risk (and hence afford to lose much more). No one wants to lose money, but without risk, there is no reward either.

I am sure most readers are familiar with what a PMS is, so I won’t expand on them but on why I don’t think PMS should be part of your investing basket. Yep, you read it right. My view is that other than the very rare instance, PMS doesn’t really add value to your investment 

First, let’s see how PMS are different from a Mutual Fund. The biggest difference is that unlike in Mutual Funds where the funds are pooled and stocks bought for the whole pool with investors allocated units, in a PMS, all the stocks bought stay in your own Demat Account. 

Does this really add value? Aashish Somiah explained in a tweet a while back on why this was advantageous to the investor.

Concentration is the key differentiator between a Mutual Fund and PMS for most part. Take for example HDFC Top 100 fund. It has 53 Stocks in the Portfolio. Most PMS on the other hand have portfolios of size that are 20 or lower. This along with good stock selection makes it possible to out-perform in bull markets though in bear market and sudden bear attacks like the one we saw in March, they are as caught as any other fund, personalized or not. 

‘Will fund flows have an impact on your returns? It depends on multiple factors including the fund size. A small fund for instance may be forced to exit good stocks to pay off existing investors who want an exit leaving the rest holding illiquid and maybe bad stuff. This is especially true in Debt funds where funds saw their bad assets grow in size because of exits by other unit holders who were paid off by selling good assets.

But if the fund is of significant size, the impact from others behavior is lower though I don’t think there is an easy way to calculate it.

So, why don’t I think it’s worthwhile to invest in a PMS and instead a Mutual Fund or a Index Fund is a much better option.

The first reason is fees. Mutual Fund fees, especially direct are falling and now available at a much lower rate compared a few years back. Index funds for instance charge just around 0.10% (Large Cap) which is really rounding off error in the long term. You cannot go anycheaper than that for a market that is not the size of the United States.

PMS on the other hand have 2 types of fees. A fixed fee that is anywhere between 1% to 2% and a performance fee that incredibly is not linked to the market but a fixed return. This means that if the market moves up 50% and I generate 50%, I take a cut (above 5% or 10% or 0% hurdle rate). The only silver lining is that many firms do have a high water mark cut off which means that once you have paid a certain performance fee, the next fee calculation will start only above it. 

Fees are a hindrance to Compounding. Longer the holding period, more the impact of fees. In 2018, Vikas Bardia wrote a post showcasing the difference in returns if Berkshire Hathway was a 2 and 20 Hedge Fund Manager. The clincher?

However, if instead of running Berkshire Hathaway as a company in which Buffett co-invests with you, had he set it up as a hedge fund and charged the usual hedge fund fee structure of 2/20 (i.e. 2% management fee + 20% of any gains), then the ₹10,000 investment would’ve only become ₹89 lakhs — the balance ₹10 crores would’ve been pocketed by Buffett as fees!

Vikas Bardia

The second impediment is tax. Till 2018, Long Term gains were tax free and till 2020, Dividend tax was paid by the companies. Both have changed and are negative to PMS investors versus Mutual Funds for PMS investing is treated to be the same as Individual Investing with taxes being paid every year. 

Mutual Funds, Index Funds, PMS, AIF have all one thing in common – churn. Some are high, some are low and churn has costs that are common to all of them. Whereas the churn of your mutual fund will not mean anything for you, churn in the PMS needs action from your end in either having to pay the required taxes or claiming the losses for future set offs. 

Launching a Mutual Fund requires 50+ Crores in Capital and 5 Crores (was 2 Crores until recently) in Capital for PMS. It’s not surprising to see the huge number of funds. I myself was until recently involved in a Portfolio Management company but unlike others we offered differentiation in terms of being able to have your own asset allocation mix and a price momentum portfolio that for now has no competition.

With more funds chasing the very same stocks, it’s not easy to really differentiate one from another. Finally, when investing for the long term, fees really add over time. As a saying goes, The only two certainties in life are death and taxes – we cannot avoid death, but we can to an extent save on Taxes.

Life is all about Trade-Offs

Most of our investing career is just built around 20 to 30 years. The initial part is spent figuring out oneself and the strategy that suits oneself. The last part is mostly reaping the benefits and moving to a safer and income driven strategy.

Depending on how much you can save, the 20 to 30 years can provide for very strong growth in your asset base. But the issue is that once every decade or so, you will face a situation which makes you question everything you know and believe in.

Regardless of what kind of investor you are, there are always trade-offs to be made. As a discretionary investor who studies companies, bottom-up, there is a limit on how many Industries you can study and learn enough to be able to bet significantly upon. A systematic investor on the other hand has to make choices when he is building his algorithm.

We make trade-offs all through our lives. When we finish our 10th Standard Exam, we need to take a decision that will have an impact all through our life – should we take up Science, Commerce or Arts being the monumental question we are faced.

For Science, the trade off continues as they finish 12th. Should I go for Medicine, Engineering or pure Sciences? Each decision has a certain pay-off –  if it works, you congratulate yourself all through your life for a well made choice. 

When it comes to investing, it’s not very different. Should you invest on your own or should you invest in a mutual fund. The choices don’t end there. If you wish to invest on your own, what philosophy should you choose – Value, Growth, Quality or Momentum or a mix of them. When it comes to Mutual Funds, every fund house has a dozen or so funds trying to provide for any segment you may wish to invest and there are 41 such folks.

For the last two years, being a large cap investor would have provided you much better returns than a Mid or Small cap investor. But pull back a bit more, say 7 years and it’s not so much clear for quite a few funds outside the large cap universe provided similar if not better returns.

Franklin in the debt fund space had made a name for itself by producing superior returns. But when the chickens came home to roost, some of the Alpha got wiped out. But that is the nature of return – higher return comes with certain caveats including risk of capital loss.

Asset Allocation is a trade off. When you choose a conservative model, you are letting go of the upside for more protection on the downside. Today, it feels awesome to have a draw-down in single digits, but that is the trade off you made by willing to not having a large equity exposure.

I track PMS returns every month since unlike mutual funds, there is no publicly available database I know of. Anyways, one recent addition to the list I track is a multi-cap pms but one which I was told was more small cap oriented. The return since its launch (2013), an awesome 26% as of end february. The negative, well, even before we hit Corona, the fund was down 50% from its peak. At its peak, the CAGR was an incredible 60%. While it’s normal for their clients to feel bad about the recent performance, for those who came in early, the return vs risk is still very much acceptable.

If you are getting into equities today, you have a trade-off to make. Should you choose the well known large cap firms or the beaten into nothingness small cap. Few days back, I ran a poll asking where people were investing. 2 days back, I saw a similar poll by a AMC head. In both polls, very few claimed to be investing in small cap with Large cap being the first choice. Once again, the Risk and Reward is different for both choices.

As a quant, we make choices when we build every model. The Asset Allocator model for instance is worried about taking risks, the Momentum Model on the other hand is 50% invested even today. Different goals, Different strategies.

In the United States, it’s said that there has been a flight to safety. Investors as usual are fearful, not just about markets but about future prospects as job losses climb to numbers never seen. It’s once again a choice between probable future gains in equity vs the pain of continuing losses especially if that comes in even as one is unemployed.

Choosing the trade-offs themselves is tricky. In good times what trade-off you may feel is acceptable may not seem like a good trade-off when the times turn around. Ask Softbank as it tries to recuse itself from buying 3 Billion Dollars of We Work shares it agreed upon when times were better than its today.

In hindsight, we often feel that there was no trade-off to be made and the choice was very easy to make, but the reality is that there is always one. How you play it and the results makes us look back and think differently on the choices we were offered. 

The world today appears dark and bleak. It’s like a tornado has hit the town and we are in the dark in the Shelter. When we go back, things may not be the same, but human nature rarely chances in a matter of days let alone years. Investing should be driven by such constructs. The portfolio may not be “Antifragile”, but our behavior can be. 

Staying the Course

In January of this year, I made a pretty massive investment for one of my family members in a mutual fund whose philosophy I strongly believe in. I had the option of investing in the Liquid and doing a Systematic Withdrawal Plan to invest in Equity or invest in lumpsum. My own testing has shown that its basically a coin toss on which is better and I opted for the Lump Sum.

Today, that investment is down 24% and it pains me that no end. But this investment was done not for any short term goals but a goal that is 18 years away at the minimum. While the bad start point will do doubt have an impact, I think that the investment based on my assumed return will still meet the goal.

I came across this tweet today and while I did pass a sarcastic joke, the fact remains that the best thing to do if you continue to believe in the fund and their philosophy is to just sit tight

https://twitter.com/_Mutual_Funds_/status/1246464026051141632

This is not to say that the fund will perform according to one’s expectation, but unless you are a professional, I can say with 80% confidence that over a long period of time, you will find it tough if not impossible to beat returns generated by the majority of funds while investing directly in stocks.

When we invest in stocks, we are not just managing a part of our money but need to act as our own fund managers. But we are in many ways handicapped – from our ability to research the companies we wish to invest in to our own behavioral biases which do not allow for acts like cutting the losses.

DSP Blackrock Micro Cap Fund in 2008/09 fell nearly 75% from the peak. Subsequently though, it rose from a NAV of 4.50 to a high of 73 in January 2018. This was accomplished I believe by not just sitting on the portfolio of 2008 but being active.

I don’t know when this bear market will end or how long it will take, but data shows that unless you are able to catch the absolute low, you are better off just staying the course. For instance, I checked the difference in one’s return if one invested 3 months before the final low and 3 months post take off when it became clear that the crisis had passed off. Being early was as damaging as being late. Since the 3 month prior and the low can be known only in hindsight, this is at best a theoretical exercise with no practical value.

Mutual Funds wish that you keep sipping to infinity regardless of the underlying markets. But if you were to be practicing any sort of asset allocation, you know that just the market returns alone can significantly boost your equity exposure. When times are good, it’s best to sip into debt and when times are bad, make the switch the other way.

The reason for every bear market is different and yet the final outcome is similar – the weak get punished, the strong survive and later thrive. As a theoretical exercise, it’s interesting to wonder if we could have exited before the big crash arrived, but if everyone thought the same, one needs to wonder if there would have been a market to sell. 

Personally I practise a medium to long term form of momentum investing which means my exits are not quick enough in crashes such as these. But history has taught me that if I stick to my system and the signals, I will be able to generate a return that helps me in achieving my goal. To me, that is the final objective.

The Corona Virus doubtless will change a lot which means that a lot of companies will end up on the losing side of the battle. By buying an Index or a fund whose philosophy you strongly believe in, you should be rest assured that the winners will most probably be part of your portfolio while the losers are ousted. Finally, that is what matters between the Winning Portfolio and the Losing Portfolio.

Introducing Portfolio Yoga Elite Discussion Forum

In February 2004, I started a Yahoo based group for discussions around Technical Analysis. Over time, this became a group that was thousands of members strong with hundreds of messages exchanged by members whose contribution has remained invaluable. Personally, I learnt a lot and made a lot of new friends. 

Today, when I say messages, the first thought that comes to mind is Twitter sized messages, but the messages we exchanged on the group were email based and many times consisted of deep writing – God, I miss those days.

Thanks to a commercial event that literally split the group down (the group was a non profit initiative that was supported only by members’ passion to learn and exchange ideas), the group met its death a few years back.

I have had many requests to either re-start the group or start a new one. But over time, I am beginning to feel that most people these days don’t have the interest of reading let alone reading through deep discussion emails especially when we have been addicted to Twitter.

Some time back, I opened my Twitter DM to Public to try and provide views to anyone who had queries when it came to finance. With the turmoil we are seeing in markets, I have got more messages than what I expected. 

On Twitter, it’s easy to just shoot and forget on what portfolio to build. But without some sort of support, this can be implemented only by those who are knowledgeable and understand the nuances of such investment

One of the things I learnt at Capitalmind where I worked for nearly 3 years was that there is a very high requirement for people to have a platform to interact. While Twitter provides for such, if you are not followed by others, you don’t get answers to your questions either and its not easy to build a network either. On the other hand, there are good people with low following which means that their views and opinions don’t get the publicity they need to get.

The future path of Portfolio Yoga I envisioned to be an advisory with active discussion forum that can provide investors ability to understand finance better. Thanks to Corona, that has got delayed. But markets being what they are, there is a huge vacuum that requires to be filled.

I have created a Slack Discussion Forum which in future will be open to only paid members, but given the uncertainty in the markets and the delay in starting off my own venture, I am now opening it to the public at large. 

Do note that the whole forum being public, I have no way to monitor all messages or approve the same. Please do follow etiquette you would normally follow with your friends and family. Members violating the same including abuse would be removed. No discussion on Politics or Religion either. 

Please do note that this is not a Financial Advice forum nor is Portfolio Yoga registered as one. This is a forum designed to help answer your questions. Hope you see you there. 

If you have any queries, ping me on Twitter @prashanth_krish. My DM’s continue to be open.